tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3137246730421866659.post2015205164487595049..comments2023-10-09T06:54:04.099-06:00Comments on Past Times and Present Tensions: The Palaeolithic artist: part 24John Hooker FSAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10001080340384925879noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3137246730421866659.post-21418015416280773252015-10-04T12:05:13.872-06:002015-10-04T12:05:13.872-06:00Pesky rabbits!Pesky rabbits!John Hooker FSAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10001080340384925879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3137246730421866659.post-42924457287508908842015-10-04T07:48:45.091-06:002015-10-04T07:48:45.091-06:00John,
I will accept "the media is the messag...John,<br /><br />I will accept "the media is the message" as being about the media and not the message. <br /><br />Now everything makes sense! And all rabbits are back in their holes.<br /><br />Cheers,<br /><br />KostasConstantinos Ragazashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11368374316165533910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3137246730421866659.post-28522309641209642562015-10-03T23:43:44.211-06:002015-10-03T23:43:44.211-06:00Well, it is what it is. It's not just McLuhan,...Well, it is what it is. It's not just McLuhan, media is complex whether it is expressed by McLuhan, Tim Berners-Lee, or Phil Agre. There is just no solid ground to walk on. I really started to appreciate that when I was designing and testing emergency flood evacuation maps. The pessimist weeps. the cynic laughs... who was the greater terrorist -- Osama bin Laden or Homeland Security? We should be duly suspicious of anything that is satisfying. Everything is a meme to Dawkins, except for his own memes. No small wonder that Phil Agre went a little weird.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />JohnJohn Hooker FSAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10001080340384925879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3137246730421866659.post-73850556543330467092015-10-03T21:05:14.985-06:002015-10-03T21:05:14.985-06:00John,
No intellect can be or should be "enca...John,<br /><br />No intellect can be or should be "encapsulated". I was referring to McLuhan's thoughts on "the medium is the message". Which can be and should be. I read and reread his chapter on this. And still can't coral all the scrambling rabbits McLuhan lets lose on the reader. That style of discourse is intellectually not satisfying for me. Though it likely is for you.<br /><br />Any thoughts?<br /><br />KostasConstantinos Ragazashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11368374316165533910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3137246730421866659.post-59802110897158886592015-10-03T18:31:42.239-06:002015-10-03T18:31:42.239-06:00Funny you mentioned that, I will have a quote from...Funny you mentioned that, I will have a quote from Wassily Kandinsky on Monday saying the same thing. Nothing to do with McLuhan, though. McLuhan cannot be encapsulated. That would be like trying to encapsulate Medicine and then opening a practice as a G.P! he's a bit like Jung that way: very few of his closest associates could even approach his success.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />JohnJohn Hooker FSAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10001080340384925879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3137246730421866659.post-73026095141088879362015-10-03T16:39:35.301-06:002015-10-03T16:39:35.301-06:00John,
... trying to encapsulate McLuhan into an i...John,<br /><br />... trying to encapsulate McLuhan into an idea I can digest.<br /><br />How close does this come to that: "we are all creatures of our culture".<br /><br />cheers,<br /><br />KostasConstantinos Ragazashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11368374316165533910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3137246730421866659.post-18369213195912852922015-10-03T15:20:31.410-06:002015-10-03T15:20:31.410-06:00I'm sorry Kostas, I'm not following you he...I'm sorry Kostas, I'm not following you here. Can you give me the McLuhan quote that is giving you the problem? I should be able to work it out from that.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />JohnJohn Hooker FSAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10001080340384925879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3137246730421866659.post-15956635341449588872015-10-03T13:01:51.777-06:002015-10-03T13:01:51.777-06:00John,
While you like stories, I like ideas. This ...John,<br /><br />While you like stories, I like ideas. This may be our biggest difference.<br /><br />Is McLuhan saying anything more than "the means are the Ends"? Or, "the Journey is the Destinations"? Or, "what you see is all you get"?<br /><br />If I am wrong, then illuminate me. But don't make "me" the "content" of that Light!<br /><br />KostasConstantinos Ragazashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11368374316165533910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3137246730421866659.post-73608458365417555462015-10-03T05:51:13.963-06:002015-10-03T05:51:13.963-06:00Thank you, Thelma. We both got "treats":...Thank you, Thelma. We both got "treats": Tristan got dog treats and a toy (which he picked out, himself, at a pet-shop. I got two dinners at my favorite restaurant, the Beltliner, Calgary. The last one was meat-loaf, but a meat-loaf that might have been served by Gordon Ramsay: ground pork. bison and elk. This was followed my their own Saskatoon berry pie with (real) whipped cream. I had a "blood alley bitter" from Vancouver and two glasses of "writer's tears" an Irish pot-still whiskey the type of which was drunk by James Joyce and Yeats a hundred years ago. The entire meal cost the equivalent of £19. John Hooker FSAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10001080340384925879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3137246730421866659.post-7383308575659567602015-10-03T01:13:56.699-06:002015-10-03T01:13:56.699-06:00Good morning John, just to wish you (and Tristan) ...Good morning John, just to wish you (and Tristan) a belated happy birthday, and I trust you both got what you wanted in the way of presents! thelmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00934860502828923562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3137246730421866659.post-13384347254624922482015-10-02T12:27:46.285-06:002015-10-02T12:27:46.285-06:00Hi Kostas,
As McLuhan is totally counter-intuitiv...Hi Kostas,<br /><br />As McLuhan is totally counter-intuitive, if you have not read "The Medium is the Message" it would actually be impossible for anyone to know what he means by that. In fact, most of the 6,800 words in that chapter (Chapter One) are examples from literature and history. He needed to do that because it is so opposite to what anyone would expect, and "the medium is the message" is actually very famous for being completely misunderstood!<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />JohnJohn Hooker FSAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10001080340384925879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3137246730421866659.post-726948606615449032015-10-02T10:43:52.086-06:002015-10-02T10:43:52.086-06:00Yes, but must I read what I already know? Ask if y...Yes, but must I read what I already know? Ask if you have any doubt.<br /><br />KostasConstantinos Ragazashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11368374316165533910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3137246730421866659.post-17870891997306685272015-10-01T18:56:44.768-06:002015-10-01T18:56:44.768-06:00Yes, but only if McLuhan is read first...
Best,
...Yes, but only if McLuhan is read first...<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />JohnJohn Hooker FSAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10001080340384925879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3137246730421866659.post-71579844864665472892015-10-01T18:22:57.022-06:002015-10-01T18:22:57.022-06:00John,
Each "authentic discovery" will o...John,<br /><br />Each "authentic discovery" will open the mind to re-viewing what once was thought. Naturally such process entails an elaborate Q&A as we learn anew what we thought we knew.<br /><br />Truth is what endures for all. And recognized only through "authentic discoveries" of it. No matter what the medium is, The Medium is the Message when the Message is Truth.<br /><br />Kostas<br />Constantinos Ragazashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11368374316165533910noreply@blogger.com